User talk:WatchTVEatDonutDrinkBeer




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Club Captains?
Are there gonna be secret handshakes?? Because I will totally be a club captain if it means I can put someone on Double Secret Backround-Probation. I don't even care which club. Just give me one. I want to begin hazing immediately.--thisniss 03:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikiality in the media?
Did you see this at Nofactzone? Also this. heh. --Esteban Colberto 01:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

IJ.com
Just sent "reminder emails" about Valentines Cards and The DeGeneres Paradox to IntegrityJustice.com, and wanted to let you know. I don't want to bombard them, but I do like the idea of keeping them up on the major stuff that's going on over here. --thisniss 19:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Admin Board
I checked out the Admin Board additions - lots of new job titles for people, huh? Is there something you would particularly like for me to do, or perhaps not do, other than what I'm doing, or not doing, right now? :)--thisniss 19:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I can't believe I forgot
to wish you a "Happy Ronald Reagan's Birthday" last week. I just feel terrible about this.--thisniss 07:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, I can make up for it in June by getting you something extra nice for RR's Ghost's Birthday. lol--thisniss 18:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Floggings
Well, they're not "flogging" like Wal-Mart's flogging, but there are a couple of bad boys doing some vanity posting on the gay pages tonight, and I did Flog the images of User:Peterpan12 because they seemed inappropriate. You can check for yourself in the last revision of Gay/Spectrum, which I reverted. But I wanted to check with you in case I maybe just missed a joke or something.--thisniss 03:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You know I didn't. I wanted to give him a chance to repent.  I was raised up in the Church. lol--thisniss 03:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * "I will stand aside as you do that voodoo that you do so well." - I'm not sure I know what you mean, sir. Good Christian girls like me do not participate in voodooish rituals.  Or were you perhaps snarking at my apparent inability to convert the pagans?  Because I assure you that with the proper love, brainwashing, and kool-aid beverages, they all come around in the end.--thisniss 03:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I told you before that they kicked me out for my sins, so it obviously didn't "take" with me, either.--thisniss 04:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you sure I haven't sinned? I have been writing an awful lot about Eastern & Central European countries the last few days, which means I haven't been devoting nearly enough attention to the good old U.S. of A.  As for the flogging... I'd prefer a nap.--thisniss 04:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Just as an example
of what I originally had in mind when I suggested a "Page of the Day": yesterday was the Grammy Awards. It might have been nice to put the Music article on the Main Page, in the big box where the "Featured Articles" now reside. It's got a nice graphic (Stephen's album cover), a quote from Morley Safer, and some decent opening text. The article itself is okay - it links out to a lot of other stuff, and it definitely offers a lot of Stepheneration. But it's not something Esteban & I would ever want to put up for "Feature" because we don't want it locked down. It's an ongoing project. But it's good enough to go up for a day, to connect with a timely event, to draw people into the wonderful world of Stephen's music, etc. That's what I feel the "Page of the Day" (and the Middle Box on the Main Page) should do. But I also realize that this is just my opinion.--thisniss 19:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * (I am going to post here because your page is full--It's giving that warning about being 32kb+)...You could always use the "Big Headline" and the "News" photo, to highlight special days, events, etc. Or post special stuff in the banner with the explosions and Stephen's Wag.  We have to be careful about how much of the front page we restrict to admin-only content.


 * I just don't want to overwhelm admins or take the focus away from the featured article that the users have voted on to be given special status.--WatchTVEatDonutDrinkBeer 20:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. I wasn't seeing this as "admin-only content," or anything - just something different from the Features, and a way to get fresh material on the front page, esp. while voting seems to be a no-go.  I don't see these as mutually exclusive, in any case.  But it's possible that we're talking about similar things in different ways, or that it's simply a moot point right now anyway.  I'll go archive my talk page and leave the Main Page to you.--thisniss 21:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

WOTW
I saw in your comment "not of the day, of the week," and wondered what that meant. As I mentioned when the "Page of the Day" idea came up before, I feel a Wikiality.com "Day" need not necessarily follow the factinista conventions of a 24 hour "day." Our "Day" could be a week, or 12 hours, or whatever, depending on our need to change the "Word of the Day" (and the availability of an Admin to do so?)... Just what my gut says.--thisniss 17:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, but I feel we should still call it "Day" (or make up some word for our own unit of time - "Truth Day" = "Tray", "Freedom Day" = "Fray", "Stephen Day" = "Stay", or something way better than any of these) so that we could change it more often if we wanted to.  Then we just note that our unit of time is arbitrary truthy, and gut-driven, and it doesn't matter how long it "actually" is.--thisniss 18:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Not to butt in... but God made EVERYTHING in six days... so there is definitely some leeway here... --Alethic Logic 18:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't feel repeating is a big deal. If something is good, why not show it more than once?  It's pretty unlikely that anyone goes back into the old "Features" to read them, yet those are precisely the kind of articles we should want people to expect to see when they come to the front page.  So what if they see the same one six months later?  As long as there's a fresh supply of "Features" as well, it won't matter.  Especially as we are establishing the site and developing a reader/user base, I think it's more important to keep a circulation of good, fresh stuff than to worry about re-using that stuff.  Bringing more people in will naturally generate more good stuff (and more good stuff is getting made all the time). If it really turns into a problem down the line, we can always put the brakes on then.  Plus, if the "Word of the Day" cycles more quickly, it gives the "Features" more prestige.  If  they stay up for a week, it disincentivizes "Features" voting even more.  As I see it, the WOTD could help generate interest in Features voting, too.(ack, Watch replied while I was writing my reply)--thisniss 18:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * And on the Seventh Day
 * ...He rested to look at His creation: Word of the Week...--WatchTVEatDonutDrinkBeer 18:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course. I'm not actually suggesting that we do anything different.  I'm simply suggesting that we keep the name open enough so that we can change it flexibly, and describe it as such.  If part of the promise is a gut-driven time table for change (at least once a week, but possibly more often), then if some big event occurs and we have a related page, we can switch out the WOTD without cutting short an article's "week."  If nothing's going on, we can leave a piece up for a whole week.  An open-ended name lets us play with the needs of the site, users, admins, etc. as they arise, since we can't anticipate how this is going to work (other than you expecting to have to do most of it.  I understand that, based on the site's history.  But I promise to help in whatever ways you ask).--thisniss 18:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a good solution, because it detaches it from time altogether. Although that particular phrase maybe too close to "Featured Article" - but this is definitely the right direction.  How about something like "Word of Freedom" (or "Freedom Word")?  or "Word of Wisdom"/"Wisdom Word"?  "Word of Truth" (or Truthiness)?  Something along those lines?--thisniss 19:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I assumed the "Wikiality.com" part would come before the other part I was suggesting. :) Like "Wikiality.com's Word of Wisdom" (or "Truth," "Freedom," whatever, etc. Amen).  Just b/c I think it might be confusing with "Featured Articles" and "Featured Words."--thisniss 19:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I just meant that "Featured Word" sounds very similar to "Featured Article" - they end up being almost exactly the same thing, which is not at all what I thought this was going to be. It doesn't matter.--thisniss 19:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Correspondent
You're spelling the word wrong. --El Payo 09:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Images
Yes. They were duplicate copies of these files: Image:Anderson.jpg, Image:Irena B3.jpg, Image:Foxemployees.jpg, Image:Dancewithstars.jpg. The duplicates all had names like "Parody_use_only", etc., which I think means the user was filling in the wrong field in the upload form. doh. Anyway, I figured we didn't need 2 of each of these images, and we certainly didn't need a bunch of "Parody use only" titled pics, so I killed them.--thisniss 06:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

New Template
I like the new template a lot, but I was almost hoping you wouldn't have a use in mind for that pic so I could put it on my User Page. Oh well...--thisniss 04:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course, this one is really *hot*, too. (I was soooo tempted to call you "Naughty Bacon", but I remembered the confusion that resulted last time.  I'm not sure why this feels like an appropriate response.)--thisniss 05:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was afraid you might try to call me out on my joke like that.--thisniss 05:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Spider pic
No offense taken. It seemed out of place - but the pic is too weird for me to pass up. Spiders the size of a Volkswagen are the least of our worries? Oh my... .

I've added to the Colbert's Laws of Existence piece. Again, I don't know if I should - still getting the feel of things around here. Is this only for peer review or is it availble for editing? I won't be offended if my stuff is removed. Thanks! --Alethic Logic 18:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

OHeL
Thanks for your help on my Colbert's Laws of Existence / Iraqknowphobia pieces. Under your your guidance, The Baby Jesus appeared to me and I began to    get it. It was interesting to see how "The Laws" evolved was directed by the hand of God into an article with its own legs from the Iraqknowphobia starting point. It was a fun process.

I'm wondering though: I asked you to create the page as "Colbert's Law of Existence", not as "Colbert's Laws of Existence" (plural). I noted the discrepancy before you created the page for me in your previous comments. I was planning on pointing this out before you created the page, but I didn't, so when the page as created as a plural I had to work with it -- which resulted in Law #1 & Law #2. "The Laws of Existence" sound much more like a divine ordinance, so I think the pluralization punches the article up a notch. Q: Did you know before I made my changes that naming the article "The Laws" would make if funnier? If the answer is "yes", then kudos to you...!

Thank your for my promotion to Truthiness Monkey in Training. Now that I'm starting to get it, would you mind doing some housekeeping for me? 1. Delete my article called Ontario, District of Saginaw. Consider that article to be my sandbox submission... 2. My article on Louis Riel is better, but I'm still working on incorporating some truthiness for it, so don't jettison it yet. The Baby Jesus shall visit me again but as you know this only happens at night, before bedtime, whilst kneeling. --OHeL 14:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

TDGP
You're probably already gone for the night (it's way past my bedtime), but I've been feeling like the paradox page is getting a bit listy - and I don't want to loose your most excellent pic as the highlight of the page. So I wondered about making the "scale" explanation part of a chart. I made a mock-up in the Wikiality:Sandbox. I know you will want it purtier (as would I, if I were going to put more time into it), but I thought I would just show it to you before I went into the page and did that much shuffling of text. It could leave you with a lot to undo. :) Anyway, this may not be the way to go, but it's a way to think about how to give the page a bit nicer look and flow. Oh, and maybe  The Gaydar Scale wants a page, too?--thisniss 08:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I only meant "listy" from a visual perspective, which is partly what footnotes do, unfortunately. Not dissing, tho - I love it.--thisniss 09:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I flipped the "proof" and the "explanation" - I think this is what was throwing me off both visually and even skewing the truthiness of the page a bit for me. With all of the "maths" at the top as they were before, it was taking a while to get to the "Paradox," which is after all the point of the article. So I remembered the whole "inverted triangle" rule, and even thought the triangle is the devil's favorite shape, I accepted the rule just this once and inverted the sections.  This way, you get the point sooner, and with the proof further from the footnotes, it doesn't turn as much into a "listy" looking page after the top break. I also used the chart b/c it let me put in a bigger version of the scale (YAY!) and pull one of the "lists" to the side.  I hope all of this is okay, and that you will further prettify my prettification.  As always, if you hate it, you can simply undo. LIS--thisniss 18:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Does that mean I did something wrong? I'm not trying to get all up in your space, just wanting to help make the baby as beautiful as possible.  Oh, and I don't know what happened to #2: Ex-Gay - thanks for catching that.  I must have lost it somewhere in the fromatting!--thisniss 20:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Point taken. (Though honestly, I work the femme-butch line pretty well. I brought my tools in today to bleed the radiators in my office; none of the guys know how.)--thisniss 21:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Maintenance won't come on Sunday, and it's friggin cold. Yeah, I agree about the fiddling, and can't really see much need at this point. You are a genius, by the way! Have you sent this to IntegrityJustice yet?--thisniss 21:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Iraq article
I hereby apologize for inserting another pun. Please forgive me. --Alethic Logic 17:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I trust you will let me know if I go over the top. --Alethic Logic 17:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Your gut opinion
I've been wondering if Truthiness Studies might not be better named "Colbertural Studies." I have my reasons, which I won't explain for fear of biasing your decision. Just on pure gut instinct, what do you thi feel? The burning need to answer this question is keeping me from finishing another submission that's pushing up against its deadline. (Am I losing my grasp on reality, or simply accepting truthiness's grasp on me?)--thisniss 03:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Long answer, on my page.--thisniss 04:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. This is the point at which I should prolly just leave it alone for tonight and come back when I'm not so tempted to think about it. Clearly not a good thing to do!  lol.  And wow, you are on a deletion roll tonight, huh?--thisniss 04:25, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of junk on the site and I want to make sure I do my share of cleaning up!--WatchTVEatDonutDrinkBeer 04:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Stopping Racist A-Holes
How can I permanently prevent a page from being created? 'Awesome23' keeps adding 'Nigger' as a page. --El Payo 18:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm hoping you blocked Awesome23, not Awesome22, who is awesome. :) --El Payo 18:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Morning stuff
Check yer email. Also, did you ever send anything to IJ.com on The DeGeneres Paradox? Or shall I? Because that Gaydar Scale is tooooo much. As soon as I get another minute, I'm nominating you for a Nobel Prize.--thisniss 16:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Re Artetruths
I'm giving it some thought, but being not very creative and having 3 or 4 ideas running in my head jostling for attention, I just wanted to get it down before A)I forgot it; or B)someone else beat me to it (surprised no-one had, actually). The way I see it is that this is here for everyone to elaborate on. Definition by consensus... Wikinition, maybe...? Hmmmm... *goes to create that page too now that I have the bug* Appreciate your input, Tracey 07.40(ish) 9 February 2007 (GMT)

hmmm
Ok, I will leave you alone for tonight, but first... If you have time, can you make this pretty: Template:WACult? If the pic gets any bigger, it looks way different from the other boxes, but as is, it gets so small that it kind of loses meaning. Maybe I just need to find a different image, which I can do tomorrow. If you don't have time, no worries. Oh - and I do hope you know I was kidding before, with all the me stuff. I'm just loopy from day-long officialese - elementary school style this afternoon, grad school style tonight. f@#k.--thisniss 06:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

DeGeneres Paradox
OMG - I love the spectrum so much, it made me write OMG - something I swore I'd never do. I tweaked the thing a bit, just because I wanted to play, too. Obviously, you can nix my nixo-facting and whatever other changes you don't like. It's just sooo great. I want to see that image on the front page, too; before the Oscars!--thisniss 02:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm not going to get to it tonight b/c I have 2 abstracts to write before midnight (yipes!), but why did you think the other page we talked about should be called "Straightener" rather than "Chemical Straightener"? I'm just bi- curious.  I think I might be missing something in the distinction (my denseness is showing here).--thisniss 03:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Most of the recent features haven't been Admins' pages, so I don't think you need to worry about that. I mean, whatever perceptions people might have, empirically this is not the case. Of the last 4 features, Wikinazi, School, Virginality, and Anti-Claus, only one had an "admin" as a co-author at the time it was chosen to be featured (Wikinazi - which you could still almost get around by saying that ColbertNationEditor was the "lead" author and Esteban a secondary collaborator).  You might have more cause to worry that the Featured articles are leading to Adminships! lol --thisniss 03:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, too - if people don't like it, that's all the more reason for them to vote!! VOTE, people!--thisniss 03:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Whoo-hoo! One abstract done, and only an hour past the deadline! Anyway, yeah.  Who cares what it looks like?  It looks like Stephen and Tad are doing a little more than wrestling, if you know what I mean.  Or maybe it looks like they're doing less, and some feel they're doing more.  Each of us decides the truth in his/her own gut, right?  Courage, hero!  You are my Wikiality.com hero, you know.  You don't need to worry about what anyone else thinks, because I'm the best one.  hehehe.  Or at least, I've got the biggest ego.  :)--thisniss 06:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikia Calendar Help
Here's the wikia page on the new calendar feature --El Payo 18:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Quick Talk Templates
Well, I didn't make one, but I can if you want. I'm not sure it's necessary, though - it seems like it's already covered in what's there.--thisniss 03:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, now I'm confused. Which "note" should I make template for?--thisniss 04:04, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Check Out Breaking News
Stephen Colbert - The ice cream??!! --El Payo 23:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Salon.com's suggestion Image:Colberry.jpg, to go with the NoFactZone.com suggestion Image:AmeriConeDream.jpg El Payo uploaded.  Time for a new game??--thisniss 23:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think there should have been a "Colberry" in there somewhere. --Alethic Logic 23:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, never mind - I saw the Colberry one just now... duh... --Alethic Logic 23:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The Salon link is in the pic info, Ice cream is currently on our un-American menu, and I've gotta run. Love in Stephen and do what you will with this information!--thisniss 23:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

GOTV
As Confucius prepares to go the way of most recent features candidates, I wonder anew at American/Wikiality.com citizens' apathy about voting. Not because this particular article is "worthy," but because no one seems interested in voting - Wikinazi being a happy exception. I don't know if there's much we can do about this, but I did wonder about maybe using Esteban's excellent Image:Uncle-Stephen.jpg with a slightly altered text (like "Vote for Featured Articles" instead of "Help Edit...") as a potential "Get out the vote" spur? How would you feel about this? I think it would be cool if we could find a prominent spot for it somewhere (even with current text - I just like it). I mentioned this to him, and he seemed okay with the idea of its use, w/ or w/out a text change - just waiting to hear what you thi feel about the idea.--thisniss 22:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I get that. But why don't the people who are "qualified" vote anymore?  And I don't think people need to have a featured article to vote for featured articles, do they?  Because that would severely limit the pool of voters.  Maybe people think they have to "prove" their worthiness to vote, and that's part of what keeps some "qualified" voters from voting?  How/when does a person "qualify"?  Maybe that could be clarified.  Or maybe people genuinely don't care.  I don't know.--thisniss 23:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Template standards
I got a couple good ideas for new templates. The 1st of which is a "not a sexual predator" template featuring Poppa Bear O'reilly, then another yet to be determined template featuring liberal mouthpiece Thom Hartmann. Where can I find standards for creating new templates?--Slanderson 21:51, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Grammy Awards
I've read recently that Colbert will be hosting The Grammy Awards tonight. http://www.theonlinewire.com/articleView.aspx?ID=2370 --Slanderson 18:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Or maybe not
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/streeter/entries/2007/02/grammys_this_co.html Apparantly the Grammy thing is just one of those rumors they periodically use to clog up the tubes.--Slanderson 18:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Good Question
I've taken the liberty of adding it to the breaking news section anyway. Italic text